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gerri: president obama calling on congress to act to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get thi done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for iediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. gerri: no kidding. we have been telling you that for weeks. democrats and republicans alike should rename their parties the procrastination party. that is because like a lot of college freshman, they left their work until the last minute. including the 800 billion-dollar fiscal cliff that we have been talking about. a hundred billion dollars it hasn't happened yt. it's not like the deadline comes as a surprise to anybody at all, the least of all congress. they were the ones who extended the bush tax c
gerri: president obama calling on congress to act to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get thi done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for iediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american...
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shibani: we are just four days away before the fiscal cliff deadline, and as many investors scramble to adjust their portfolios, we've got a money manager who says he's got three plays that could yield you 20% no matter what the fiscal cliff resolution ends up being. joining us now is randy warren, warren financial services cio. thanks for joining us. >> nice to be here. thank you. shibani: so right off the top, i would love to know, why is it that etfs you feel can be a little bit more resistant to the waves coming in, the shockwaves coming out of d.c.? >> i think you go for some sectors that aren't necessarily in the crosshairs of what's going on in the house and in the senate right now. so i'm looking at things like the financial sector. it's been beaten down over the last few years. we all know about all the history that's gone on since 2007, 2008, some of the banks failed, some of the big banks failed and also the problems in europe. a lot of the banks had trouble in europe over the last couple of years. they are starting to rebound now. there's an opportunity for improvement in
shibani: we are just four days away before the fiscal cliff deadline, and as many investors scramble to adjust their portfolios, we've got a money manager who says he's got three plays that could yield you 20% no matter what the fiscal cliff resolution ends up being. joining us now is randy warren, warren financial services cio. thanks for joining us. >> nice to be here. thank you. shibani: so right off the top, i would love to know, why is it that etfs you feel can be a little bit more...
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they're waiting to see what happens with the fiscal cliff. >> hope is fact if congress can get it done before january 1st. even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to. they'll have 24 hours. outside the beltway, carlino will be watching. >> everyone is kind of in a wait-and-see and fingers-crossed per expect tichb right now. >> since 1930 this is only the fifth time congress has worked after christmas. and today's summit is the first time p
they're waiting to see what happens with the fiscal cliff. >> hope is fact if congress can get it done before january 1st. even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking....
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goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> if nothing is done by midnight monday, mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in, impacting every american. elizabeth corridan is monitoring the situation and brings us the latest. --reporter pkg-as follows -- " as we gather with so much work undone, guide our lawmakers with your wisdom." the senate convened its rare sunday session with a prayer for progress. the house returned from its holiday hiatus. with less than 48- hours until the u-s economy goes over what's being called the fiscal cliff - lawmakers are locked in a fierce face-off over a set of spending cuts and tax hikes. >>> "we're apart on some pretty big issues." "i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner." >> reporter: on n-b-c's meet the press, president obama made a final pitch for his plan to preserve bush era tax cuts for everyone but the wealthiest americans. >>> "regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up that would hurt our economy badly." >> reporter: a major sticking point continu
goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> if nothing is done by midnight monday, mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in, impacting every american. elizabeth corridan is monitoring the situation and brings us the latest. --reporter pkg-as follows -- " as we gather with so much work undone, guide our lawmakers with your wisdom." the senate convened its rare sunday session with a prayer for progress. the house returned from its holiday hiatus. with less than 48- hours until...
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yes i'm talking about the fiscal cliff. hello, good to be with you. we are just two days now remaining that is, until the countdown clock and the pressure is mounting on lawmakers to get a deal done. both houses of congress are back in session this sunday ready to vote on a plan that senate leaders are trying to hammer out right now. if a deal isn't reached, your taxes will go up and government spending will be slashed. dana bash and jessica yellin are covering all angles of the story. let's start with dana on capitol hill who has heard word of a setback in the talks. dana, what do you know? >> setback from the perspective of democrats. we should underscore that. this is any information that is coming out. is coming out for a purpose. this is certainly significant. when it comes to the democrats' perspective. and that is, they are very unhappy and they call a quote poison pill. what they say is an offer from the republicans to include in this deal, which has been from the democrats perspective, mostly focused on taxes to include in it, a change in a t
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remember this, if you haven't been following the fiscal cliff, take note. even if a deal gets done, taxes go up for many high income and likely big spending families. there is an economic impact either way. it is just perhaps the veseveri under question. >> when we talk about is the marginal propensity to consume. what does that mean? for every dollar that you either have or don't have, how much of that will you spend or not spend? the thinking is as we raise taxes on wealthier people, that margin propensity goes down. in other words, they don't spend every dollar they have, they save a bit of it, because they have more of it. the economic point of view is to get rid the tax hikes on middle class. it goes down the the higher up you go it goes down further. you are right to say that in general, economists in 2013, brian, are looking for fiscal contraction. the federal government will be a drag on growth. no matter what happens, taxes go up on some folks then spending cuts in the budget control act and so far as you notice, brian, they haven't said anything a
remember this, if you haven't been following the fiscal cliff, take note. even if a deal gets done, taxes go up for many high income and likely big spending families. there is an economic impact either way. it is just perhaps the veseveri under question. >> when we talk about is the marginal propensity to consume. what does that mean? for every dollar that you either have or don't have, how much of that will you spend or not spend? the thinking is as we raise taxes on wealthier people,...
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cliff deal done if it does in fact get done. and what i mean by that is this -- it was done in the senate, and then it just went over to the house where house republicans were not interested in voting on it, a one-year extension of this at all, but they were sort of forced to do it because of the way the senate acted. it's not unlike what we'll probably see if the senate votes tonight and the house votes tomorrow. republicans in the senate and house are not going to be happy about it, but it's going to be, as they say here, they're going to get stuck with this bill and they're not going to have any other choice but to bring it up and probably pass it. >> can we assume, dana, that the senators, maybe even the vice president, will emerge from the meeting that is under way right now and come to the microphones that are near you? >> i would love to say yes, but we're getting some signals from democratic leadership sources that harry reid will probably not come and talk to us. however, i have seen this movie before. we're told that h
cliff deal done if it does in fact get done. and what i mean by that is this -- it was done in the senate, and then it just went over to the house where house republicans were not interested in voting on it, a one-year extension of this at all, but they were sort of forced to do it because of the way the senate acted. it's not unlike what we'll probably see if the senate votes tonight and the house votes tomorrow. republicans in the senate and house are not going to be happy about it, but it's...
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donald, they have no one about, for instance, this fiscal cliff, they have known about it for 18 months. they have done nothing for 18 months. >> they have really known about it for ten years, when you think about it. they have known about it for ten years. but that is the way government is working. >> well, my point is no politician has been tied up in the base men of the capital or white house and said don't do this. they have had plenty of tune. you talk about the big plan. have you seen any appetite for any of these members of congress or the president or anybody else to really have a big plan that actually fixes the problem? >> no, because right now the president doesn't have a big downside but in a month and a half from now he has a huge downside and that comes due with the debt ceiling. and frankly, you know, when you say they have no one about this for a year and a half, they have known about it for ten years because it was always meant to be. this was going to explode and people were going to negotiate something before it explodes. but i think it's highly overrated. it's going
donald, they have no one about, for instance, this fiscal cliff, they have known about it for 18 months. they have done nothing for 18 months. >> they have really known about it for ten years, when you think about it. they have known about it for ten years. but that is the way government is working. >> well, my point is no politician has been tied up in the base men of the capital or white house and said don't do this. they have had plenty of tune. you talk about the big plan. have...
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. >> because the fiscal cliff. i'm done with that until we get some news. >> i think that's a lot of name recognition, don't you? people also, rand paul, for example, very dynamic on television. people recognize him and his energy and his different ideas, so he stands out. but it also is a reflection of the fact that the republican party doesn't -- has an identity crisis. these are people who are moderates and iconic class and very far out on the edges. that doesn't speak to a party that really has a clear leader or a central ideology to speak to. >> and won't until it gets a nominee. the next time we'll know what the republican party is about, maybe, when they get a nominee, right? >> well, you can get the contours of a debate if people really don't have one. remember bill clinton campaigning in the late '80s and early 1990s building a consistent case for the democratic party that was in some ways in worst shape than republicans are now. >> that took two gigantic strokes of luck. one was that mario cuomo did not r
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tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon whitehouse from rhode island. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that meeting? >> well, i think that the decision to move the forum for the negotiations to the senate was a necessary one. i have a lot of confidence in harry reid's negotiating ability. mitch mcconnell is a veteran negotiator, and i think there's a far better prospect of something being worked out in the senate than there was dealing with speaker boehner and his completely dysfunctional house republican party. >> sure. well, abiding by convention and of course protocol, the senate won't return until sunday. will there be enough time for the senate leaders to really craft a deal that is substantiative and makes a difference,
tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon whitehouse from rhode island. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that...
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i do begrudge what he's done in this fiscal cliff talks. it's been very clear from the beginning that he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success, to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. the only, you know, redoubt of the opposition is the house. and his objective from the very beginning was to break the will of the republicans in the house and to create an internal civil war and he's done that. how did he do it? from also insisting from day one after the election that the republicans had to raise rates. there's no reason at all to get the revenue that he needed and that the speaker was offering him that you had to raise rates. obama himself, as you know, said last july, july, 2011, you can get $1.2 trillion by eliminating loopholes, which is exactly what republicans offered him. so why did he insist on the rates? he said that is what he will insist upon, and that was the ultimatum. he did that because he knew it would create a cris
i do begrudge what he's done in this fiscal cliff talks. it's been very clear from the beginning that he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success, to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. the only, you know, redoubt of the opposition is the house. and his objective from the very beginning was to break the will of the republicans in the house and to create an internal civil war and he's...
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cliff deal done. but now republicans are asking from where? we're going to talk to republican senator bob corker next on "morning joe." i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. ♪ >>> live look at the white house as the sun comes up over washington. it is 15 minutes past the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." we're here today because there's no deal and we are hours away from the fiscal cliff. here with us now, republican senator from tennessee and member of the senate banking committee, senator bob corker. senator, thanks for being on the show. we a
cliff deal done. but now republicans are asking from where? we're going to talk to republican senator bob corker next on "morning joe." i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to...
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tonight congress is pushing america up a fiscal cliff of its own making. president obama and the senate back in washington today trying to get some kind of a deal done, that is what they say, but nothing will likely come in time. harry reid spent the day moaning about how bad of a speaker john boehner is good the house is set to return sunday afternoon just one day before the end of the year. nearly 90% of americans will be hit with $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts. as we head off a cliff, what can you and your family expect come january 2? president of the american action reform joins me now. so, windows narrowing, what can we expect from here? >> if we literally go on autopilot and they fail to change course, i am worried about the economy. some sharp equity market attractions, consumer confidence has already begun, lots and lots of notices sent out, layoffs scaring people to death. this is not a good news story for anybody looking for a job. gerri: the clock keeps on taking. the cover of "the new york post," pretty amusing. off the fiscal cli
tonight congress is pushing america up a fiscal cliff of its own making. president obama and the senate back in washington today trying to get some kind of a deal done, that is what they say, but nothing will likely come in time. harry reid spent the day moaning about how bad of a speaker john boehner is good the house is set to return sunday afternoon just one day before the end of the year. nearly 90% of americans will be hit with $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts. as we head off a...
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talk about what the impact of the fiscal cliff has done to the oil market. take a look at oil prices today. since christmas, we are up about 3%. take a look at the volume. if you look at the volume of trading, and "wall street journal" was onto this first talking about the falloff of volume in november, but it has really continued. take a look at what the normal average volume is and where we are today. by the way, out at the exxon mobil refinery, and caught this caught by the way, is one of the nation's newest refineries. a little news out here as we speak today. they have to report this to the federal government because -- liz: we are having some technical difficulties with jeff flock. working on a solution to the debt crisis. first, some of today's winners, s&p. ♪ >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they can open b
talk about what the impact of the fiscal cliff has done to the oil market. take a look at oil prices today. since christmas, we are up about 3%. take a look at the volume. if you look at the volume of trading, and "wall street journal" was onto this first talking about the falloff of volume in november, but it has really continued. take a look at what the normal average volume is and where we are today. by the way, out at the exxon mobil refinery, and caught this caught by the way, is...
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. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they're extended by 2020, the bush-era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insist that taxes go up for the wealthy but stay in place permanently for
. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years...
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will a last-minute fiscal cliff deal get done? and if it does what will it look like. >>> we have a deal. we may still get hit with an automatic tax hike. how much will that cost you? in time for the new year, a new snowstorm headed to the northeast. we'll let you know how bad this will get. and the yore in review, up with of the most unique and appalling takes on the year in review. good morning to you all. welcome to weekends with alex witt. no alex today. taking a much deserved weekend off. i'm t.j. holmes, good to be with you. new this morning, president obama outlining his course of action if we all go off the cliff. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the president is optimistic that a deal can be reached midnight on new year's eve. listen to senate m
will a last-minute fiscal cliff deal get done? and if it does what will it look like. >>> we have a deal. we may still get hit with an automatic tax hike. how much will that cost you? in time for the new year, a new snowstorm headed to the northeast. we'll let you know how bad this will get. and the yore in review, up with of the most unique and appalling takes on the year in review. good morning to you all. welcome to weekends with alex witt. no alex today. taking a much deserved...
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i made money in markets, done it a long time 20. years. we should just go over the fiscal cliff. swan dive over it. this is a spending trajectory and bury the economy if we go. i'm buying. >> andrea: there is not a deal sequestions ration. >> bob: first, everything you pass you retroactively do back to january 1. which they will do. not massive cut in spending right away. they won't allow people making less than $750,000 not have taxes. they won't allow fica to go back up. [over stalk ] >> bob: now you the debt ceiling. >> andrea: i want to get in here. you talk about the debt ceiling. i thought it was raised in february. isn't it suspect that all of a sudden turbo tax timmy puts out a letter saying with i'll hit the debt ceiling? if we go off the cliff, guess what that means? more revenue. credit rating agencies only care about revenue. we are likely to be just fine if we go off the cliff. >> bob: you said in the opening here. of course it's a game being played here. of course it is set up by obama. the republicans are in a big hole. >> greg: the only game more boring is soccer.
i made money in markets, done it a long time 20. years. we should just go over the fiscal cliff. swan dive over it. this is a spending trajectory and bury the economy if we go. i'm buying. >> andrea: there is not a deal sequestions ration. >> bob: first, everything you pass you retroactively do back to january 1. which they will do. not massive cut in spending right away. they won't allow people making less than $750,000 not have taxes. they won't allow fica to go back up. [over...
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cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the last decade, according to the centerses for disease control and prevention. researchers called the decline modest but say it's encouraging. the cdc adds that part of the decrease could be attributed to awareness campaigns that encourage physical activity and healthy eating. >>> before heading back to d.c. to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. t
cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the...
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cheryl: i cleverly brought you back to the fiscal cliff debate because i want to ask you about this. if you look at the expiration of the bush tax cuts, something else that would go way in 11 and a half hours, that's one-and-a-half percent of gdp. that is a big chunk of this nation's economy that goes away in spending power. i know you and i disagree, but we agree here. some of these tax cuts need to stay in place. >> without question, without question. there is certainly a healthy debate to be had about at what level you maintain the tax cuts. so close to seeing all those tax cuts go away. a completely ridiculous congress inflicted wound on the economy that is very difficult to square with reality. certainly i understand that retroactively they can do a lot to restore a lot of the damaged, but we are so close to the purposes -- press the does, it makes no sense. cheryl: last and final question. i know this is tough to answer, but we have had some really good things happen. the recovery, calling it a recovery, the fed that has been more than generous and throwing money into the syste
cheryl: i cleverly brought you back to the fiscal cliff debate because i want to ask you about this. if you look at the expiration of the bush tax cuts, something else that would go way in 11 and a half hours, that's one-and-a-half percent of gdp. that is a big chunk of this nation's economy that goes away in spending power. i know you and i disagree, but we agree here. some of these tax cuts need to stay in place. >> without question, without question. there is certainly a healthy debate...
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most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurall
most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid,...
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the house has passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff, senate democrats have not. stuart: senator harry reid blaming the republicans and republican response as we have done our part, you have got to do something first. political go at it. the wall street journal is reporting president obama called congressional leaders today to discuss the fiscal cliff and what we have got is a political attack from senator harry reid, a defensive move from the republicans, they're going at it and the dow is down 91 points. >> mel brooks at the governor says we have to save our phony baloney jobs. they are not. stuart: we have new numbers just out showing the number of workers on disability, social security disability, has hit a record high, 827,725 as of dec.. joining us is the author of hollywood hypocrites'. we have got social security, record number of people on disability, record deficit for social security, $47 billion a year, almost $1 billion a week flowing out more than coming in and young people, you voted for no change to entitlement, keep on paying for old people. what
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the fiscal cliff. -- senator barbara boxer. >> we can sit here and watch what is happening. we know that there are negotiations going on to avert at least part of the fiscal cliff. i want to say, and i have said this privately and publicly that i really hope our leaders can find a way out of this. i watched the president's speech today and i thought, as usual, he was very fair in what he said. what he basically said it is it is the middle class who grows this economy, the middle class needs to be lifted up, the middle class to cannot afford the tax hikes down those at the very top can give just a little bit more. it is a very simple point. i just would hope, given that everyone says it is not about class, and i know they say that every day on the other side of the aisle. finding this compromise will not be inclusive but will come to pass. . you you know, i have been here for a while. my understanding is we have not met between -- christmas and new years since 1962. it takes something of major proportio
the fiscal cliff. -- senator barbara boxer. >> we can sit here and watch what is happening. we know that there are negotiations going on to avert at least part of the fiscal cliff. i want to say, and i have said this privately and publicly that i really hope our leaders can find a way out of this. i watched the president's speech today and i thought, as usual, he was very fair in what he said. what he basically said it is it is the middle class who grows this economy, the middle class...
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year after year, this has been fixed by lawmakers and like everything else notice fiscal cliff, it can be done retroactively. the harshest effects of spending cuts could be modified in the first month or two of 2013. in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house w
year after year, this has been fixed by lawmakers and like everything else notice fiscal cliff, it can be done retroactively. the harshest effects of spending cuts could be modified in the first month or two of 2013. in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in...
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if they can get it done tonight on the eve of of the fiscal cliff, they can actually say they were able to get it done before we went over the cliff. that they were not so deeply, deeply irresponsible that they actually let us go over the cliff, to hammer a deal out. sometimes the congress likes to make a show of working very hard at the last minute, like a college student, who procrastinated, and then finally got the paper done. this is an embarrassing show of how we legislate in this country, but they are showing that it can be responsible, get this deal done, and go home. >> in what way can you describe the tone that this has taken, primarily this evening, as of yesterday it was this big blame game going on with fingering pointing. and really over the past couple of weeks it has been a roller costar. one day, all of this bipartisan spirit, the other day there is not. how do you think this whole thing is ending up as we stand here tonight. >> it is always a good policy in washington to assume that cooperation leads to compromise. oftentimes it is not, oftentimes what leads to compromi
if they can get it done tonight on the eve of of the fiscal cliff, they can actually say they were able to get it done before we went over the cliff. that they were not so deeply, deeply irresponsible that they actually let us go over the cliff, to hammer a deal out. sometimes the congress likes to make a show of working very hard at the last minute, like a college student, who procrastinated, and then finally got the paper done. this is an embarrassing show of how we legislate in this country,...
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behind the scenes in the fiscal cliff negotiations and now what it takes to get a deal done. c! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. hi! how are you? [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! >>> developing now, we just got an emphatic denial from the white house about that rumored proposal being sent to the hill by president obama to senate republicans to avert the fiscal cliff. and nbc's white house correspondent peter alexander joins me now. republicans saying, oh, the president is having a deal. the president is saying no. harry reid is saying no. what do we know? >> i guess we know very little. we know this isn't going to be litigated in the mead ra. but the white house wants to make it
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so i think the two of them feel like they could get something done, but, i mean, time is ticking here. >> thank you very much and happy new year. >> hey, same to you, melissa. >> for more on the fiscal cliff negotiations i am joined now by democratic strategist richard goodstein and republican strategist terry holt. thank you both for being here. >> sure. >> hi, melissa. >> terry, let's start with you. what do you think is going on behind closed doors right now on capitol hill? >> i think i'm still talking about the "meet the press" interview by the president this morning. you know, the american people elected president obama to lead, but he spent most of the morning today playing the blame game, and i say let's get the blame game over with and start talking about solutions for the american people because, you know, every -- every dollar you take, you can take every dollar from every rich person in america and still not balance this nation's budget. until we start talking about real spending cuts and structural reform to the entitlement programs, we're going to go broke. we'll go the
so i think the two of them feel like they could get something done, but, i mean, time is ticking here. >> thank you very much and happy new year. >> hey, same to you, melissa. >> for more on the fiscal cliff negotiations i am joined now by democratic strategist richard goodstein and republican strategist terry holt. thank you both for being here. >> sure. >> hi, melissa. >> terry, let's start with you. what do you think is going on behind closed doors right...
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going over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, the president talked about it today. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done. but they are not there yet. they are close. but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you are supposed to do, they will use that second. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending but let's not let that hold up and protect americans from the tax hike to take place in ten hours. ten hours from now. we can do this. we must do this. >> bret: it's not clear whether they can. it's not clear whether that is all of them believe they must. bring in the panel. jonah goldburg. kirsten powers if for daily beast. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. begin with the president's statement today that happened mid-day. he framed it as ed henry said as campaign style event. middle class families behind him. didn't have a lot of details and has had the
going over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, the president talked about it today. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done. but they are not there yet. they are close. but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you are supposed to do, they will use that second. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending but let's not let that hold...
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numbers one and two this year are fiscal cliff and kick the can down the road. now, regardless of today's outcome is the damage already done for congress? whether they come up with a small deal or not here when it comes to the american people, they've already decided congress is useless. >> well, i think those of us who tried to function over the last couple years in congress have been saying that. we can't figure out who even the 10%, who support congress, are. we are totally dysfunctional right now and this is just probably the worst example of it. you know, i heard speaker boehner say a number of times that he doesn't believe in compromise and a lot of republicans say the same thing. they say let's find common ground and act on that. well, there just isn't much common ground. if, in fact, the numbers we're hearing about the senate deal, whether $450,000 threshold or $550,000, that is not a matter of principle. that's just a matter of policy and splitting hairs and differences of dollars. so i think unfortunately we've got a lot of people on the other side of
numbers one and two this year are fiscal cliff and kick the can down the road. now, regardless of today's outcome is the damage already done for congress? whether they come up with a small deal or not here when it comes to the american people, they've already decided congress is useless. >> well, i think those of us who tried to function over the last couple years in congress have been saying that. we can't figure out who even the 10%, who support congress, are. we are totally...
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edge the chances of a fiscal cliff deal begin to doom. what will it mean for you? >> the administration essentially enacting legislation on its own through you regulation. a lot of them i think are illegal and unconstitutional. >> barack obama ramping up plans for a second term despite harsh criticism from opponents. what can we expect in the next four years? >> from the moment we met ben outside of st. peter's, russia, we fell in love. >> and tensions escalate between the u.s. and russia after putin tells americans he won't let them adopt russian children. could this be the start of a new cold war? caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone and "the factor" begins right now. ♪ >> laura: thanks for watching us tonight. late yesterday, supreme court justice sonia sotomayor denied an appeal to temporarily delay the obama care contraception mandate. it requires workers health benefit plans to cover the morning after pill and other emergency contraceptions. in september is, hobby lobby a chain of more than 500 arts and crafts stores a
edge the chances of a fiscal cliff deal begin to doom. what will it mean for you? >> the administration essentially enacting legislation on its own through you regulation. a lot of them i think are illegal and unconstitutional. >> barack obama ramping up plans for a second term despite harsh criticism from opponents. what can we expect in the next four years? >> from the moment we met ben outside of st. peter's, russia, we fell in love. >> and tensions escalate between...
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we're going over the fiscal cliff but shortly there after, gold is going. long term i want gold but short term not so much. >> now you know what these guys think. what about you? if we do go over the cliff, would gold go higher or lower. tell us. sean egan tells us if going over the cliff would mean a slash in the credit rating and ralph acampora, two shows, 1:00 p.m. >> we'll catch you at the top of the hour. give me a target for gold next year. it's at $1660. are we going substantially higher or towards 15? are not and gold and silver has had every reason to move higher in the fourth quarter in 2012. it has not. i think the love affair hedge funds have had with gold is over and view 2013 is the year gold will finally under-perform. >>> coming up, delta's flight status, can it continue its flying stock market run into the new year, one stock, two opinions. we debate it. >>> home prices on track positive for the first time since 2006. which real estate stocks are traders banking on now? >>> japanese stocks trading on highs as the market plunges. ♪ [ cows
we're going over the fiscal cliff but shortly there after, gold is going. long term i want gold but short term not so much. >> now you know what these guys think. what about you? if we do go over the cliff, would gold go higher or lower. tell us. sean egan tells us if going over the cliff would mean a slash in the credit rating and ralph acampora, two shows, 1:00 p.m. >> we'll catch you at the top of the hour. give me a target for gold next year. it's at $1660. are we going...
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. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior
. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪...
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people have said that economists said concern about the fiscal cliff has already done damage. the economy, according to the cob is certain to fall back into recession and negative growth in the new year. is that higher taxes in a way a death knell for the economy or whole picture, of increased taxes and increased spending and no meaningful deficit reduction? >> we're seeing some effect already. you're seeing that in numbers on consumer confidence, on christmas season spending and business investment in hiring. the higher tacks is not the end of the republic. it is bad for growth. but we can still have a strong economy. but i do think we need to deal with uncertainty of what are taxes going forward. this cliff deal is short-term deal. we need leadership congressman was talking about. i wish it was there i agree with him what we really need going forward. lori: congressman rigell, one last comment from you with regards to confidence in washington of the americans are fed up with the wheeling and dealing in washington and no compromise. is there anything you can say to reinforce
people have said that economists said concern about the fiscal cliff has already done damage. the economy, according to the cob is certain to fall back into recession and negative growth in the new year. is that higher taxes in a way a death knell for the economy or whole picture, of increased taxes and increased spending and no meaningful deficit reduction? >> we're seeing some effect already. you're seeing that in numbers on consumer confidence, on christmas season spending and business...
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>> z we're not on the verge of fiscal cliff, we have already gone over the of fiscal cliff. look at our problem with spending, how bloated our government is. we're $16 trillion in debt. something needs to be done. this year we're going to spend $165 billion more than we receive in social security. $3 we're going to spend for every 65 we receive in social security in medicare. this is absolutely -- we need to stop. this is not fair to young people. it's not fair for future generations they have to inherit this debt. something needs to be done. >> i agree. what do we do when we have personal debt? we raise our income, we want to raise our revenue and cut spending. >> we're not going to take -- >> we put it forward and we've cut spending cut $.5 trillion last year. >> where? >> i want to take money from the private sector and give it to a bunch of bureau kratz. let the money stay in the private sector. don't raise taxes when we have a slow economy. >> why are you telling me that? tell john boehner not to raise taxes. he'll raise them on all of us. the congress is on taxes. ever
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the new year's resolution is not to go for the fiscal cliff. lori: i will just keep saying and be done. tracy: president obama and the senate back in office, senator harry reid is the latest to say it looks like we are headed to tumble over the cliff. let's check with rich edson with the latest. >> tracy will have to come up with a new term. we will be saying this afternoon years. democrats and republicans deck at each other saying it is your turn to make a move, up to you to move next, no movement on capitol hill, and there was speculation the white house would send a proposal to capitol hill and that has been denied by an aide to the senate majority leader, harry reid taking to the senate floor saying he thinks it looks like we are headed over the fiscal cliff and he hang that on the house. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that is where we are headed the house of representatives, with four days left after the first of the year, are not here with the speaker having told them give them 48 hours notice. i can imagine their conscience
the new year's resolution is not to go for the fiscal cliff. lori: i will just keep saying and be done. tracy: president obama and the senate back in office, senator harry reid is the latest to say it looks like we are headed to tumble over the cliff. let's check with rich edson with the latest. >> tracy will have to come up with a new term. we will be saying this afternoon years. democrats and republicans deck at each other saying it is your turn to make a move, up to you to move next,...
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. >> if we get some deal with the fiscal cliff which i think we will and our politicians are the worst even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut. they will get this done sometime by january 15th or something like that. if they do not extend the debt ceiling you will have close to armageddon at the end of february and march. adam: spencer i take issue what about our politicians being the worst. our congress is the best congress money can buy. don't forget it. jonathan he is talking about armageddon because of the debt ceiling. i would be terrified if i were not in the market putting my toe in this. there will have to be buying opportunity if people panic and sell. >> which market, adam? that can be the story of 2003 and headlines are obviously scary they have a tendency to sell stocks and buy bonds. that is the safe move. i think the reverse will be true in 2013 and stocks will look quite attractive versus bonds. a highly manipulated market government stepped in and tried to hold interest rates low. once inflation starts to show its head, i think bonds, supposedly the safe asse
. >> if we get some deal with the fiscal cliff which i think we will and our politicians are the worst even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut. they will get this done sometime by january 15th or something like that. if they do not extend the debt ceiling you will have close to armageddon at the end of february and march. adam: spencer i take issue what about our politicians being the worst. our congress is the best congress money can buy. don't forget it. jonathan he is...
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the fiscal cliff. with no plan and no apparent hope. but here we are, and we have got to do something. if we are determined to go over the cliff, as we seem, we have to do something to stop and the landing. at the bottom of the fiscal cliff are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts, and a risk of another recession. if we come down on the final hours -- we have to bang choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our fellow americans, or to do something to reduce the suffering inflicted on our citizens by an inflexible political system. mr. president, i choose to do something. today i am introducing the act -- the cliff alleviation at the last minute act. the act would do three important things. it will soften the financial blow the fiscal cliff, it will colmar financial markets, it gives us the certainty of a plan. it allows us, if we ever find the courage, to pursue the fiscal grand bargain that has eluded us so far. the financial marke
the fiscal cliff. with no plan and no apparent hope. but here we are, and we have got to do something. if we are determined to go over the cliff, as we seem, we have to do something to stop and the landing. at the bottom of the fiscal cliff are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts, and a risk of another recession. if we come down on the final hours -- we have to bang choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our fellow...
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if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. learn more, lose more at letsfightfat.com. learn more, lose more are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explai
if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no,...